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How To Ask A Girl For Her Number

October 6th, 2009 · educational

Some guys have no problem at all in striking up a conversation with a girl. What they need next is to know how to get that number.

Maybe you’ve even tried in the past but been blown away or even given a fake number? How can you secure the digits and make sure that they are good?

The Basics

First of all, just make sure that you really know what you’re doing before even getting the number. Have you noticed some indicators of interest from her? Are you sure that she likes you? Some guys are virtually blind and although they can talk to a woman, she may not be interested in him but he doesn’t realise it.

You must pass this first hurdle before going for the number. It won’t hurt to just ask for the number anyway and get some practice but in the long term you want something good to come from the number!

Keep It Short

Although you can get a number when you’ve had a long and good conversation and it’s starting to falter or peter out, it is far better to keep the conversation short and leave her wanting more and getting the number then.

Make up some excuse like you have friends to catch up with or an appointment to get to. This shows that you are not “needy” and is therefore attractive to women.

Words

So how do you ask for the number? There are many ways but one of the best is to simply say to her “well it’s been nice talking to you, I have to go but we should go for a coffee sometime, how can I reach you?”

All the different gurus will recommend slightly different approaches. Ultimately, you don’t want to look needy so don’t ask her for dinner or for a date. Ask her for something non-threatening like a coffee.

There are different opinions on the final part. Some say to just ask “give me your number” or “what’s your number”. Others say to make it a bit more cryptic as I have done above. I think that one of the gurus called Ross Jeffries advises something along the lines of “what can we do to make this happen again” but then again he uses a lot of covert hypnotic NLP stuff too!

Calling Her Back

Never call her back the day after. A friend of mine does pretty well at the first stages with ladies but then calls them back the next day! Remember, never look needy! A cool guy has many women around him and never has time to call back the next day. Wait 3 days.

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Body Language To Attract Women

October 6th, 2009 · educational

You probably have some idea or have heard that body language is critical to attracting women. Let’s remind ourselves of the maxim: a woman cannot control her attraction to a man – she either IS attracted or is NOT attracted. And you can influence that with your body language.

Stance

Your stance (whether standing or sitting) should be open and relaxed. Always appear as comfortable as you would be as if you owned the place e.g. if out in a bar.

The Hands

A cool guy uses his hands to communicate with. Don’t just leave them in your pockets. And never interlace your fingers together in front of you for comfort. This looks like typical chump behaviour.

Of course, your hands are necessary for kino too.

Kino

Kino is short for kinesthetics. It is basically when people touch each other during conversation.

This art has long been almost lost from the Western world. If you look elsewhere in the planet, kino is still very much used. And in general, girls use it more than guys.

But remember, cool guys use kino too on BOTH guys AND girls.

When you use kino on a girl you are showing her that you are a cool guy who is not afraid to touch a lady. In fact, girls feel a lot more comfortable when you kino them. If you DON’T kino them, then they actually feel uncomfortable! This is a great example of good body language to attract women.

Make sure to use some kino moves within 30 seconds of meeting. And remember, use kino on both guys AND girls. This will reinforce in your mind that it’s just your new cool guy behaviour and there is no overt sexual motive.

Where To Be

Make sure that you are not face to face with a woman. It is much better to be side to side. There are even advantages to talking with a girl over your shoulder. But again, face to face (straight on) is a no no.

Get close to her too, right away from the start. If you start out too far away then you cannot get in closer later very easily. Better to sit right next to her from the beginning. Next time you get on a bus or a train and you see a girl with a seat right next to her, go straight for it.

Don’t worry, she won’t think you’re a creep, in fact she’ll think the exact opposite. She’ll possibly be attracted to you because you showed balls in sitting there like most other guys do not.

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Study Dammit!

October 4th, 2009 · diary

I had recent internet problems but am now online. Of course, internet problems should not stop a guy from making approaches, right?

I am amazed how much time has passed since I started writing here and yet nothing has changed. Well, that’s not entirely true.

Basically my daily routine is still very similar. Yes, I am having situational opportunities to strike up conversations with new girls. Also, even though I consider myself to be a very “aware” person, I have become much, much more aware of kino and its use by both guys and girls.

It is definitely a cool thing to do and something I need to do much, much more.

Otherwise, like I mentioned before, I need to upgrade my “vocabulary” because I feel I know a handful of words of this “language” but am unable to do much with my existing knowledge.

So you’ll soon see some educational style articles on the site. What I will do is to split the articles into “diary” and “educational” categories. You should see this appear soon on the site.

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More Of The Same

September 24th, 2009 · diary

Much the same, I don’t feel like I’m making progress although I do have an increased awareness of what is going on.

Chatting to more chicks here and there, always situational and usually in a bar or some similar place. Some basic kino at best.

I definitely need to hit the books to learn more vocabulary for my new “language”.  I came by a book called “Magic Bullets” by Savoy that is supposed to be very, very good.

I’ll be back shortly to report to you how I found it.

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Seduction Progress Report

September 20th, 2009 · diary

Last few days not much has happened. You could just repeat more and more of the same to see my progress. Nothing particularly noteworthy to report.

Basically my day involves doing some work first from home. Of course, zero opportunities for seduction.

After that, I head out and normally get smashed (intoxicated). When I am in this state, I am not really on the whole less or more confident. But I definitely have trouble getting into state, I seem to lack the drive to do it.

The result is that I have not really achieved anything. Here’s the kind of stuff I do that has not changed since I started studying seduction.

  • Speaking to people (men or women) situationally in a place where I am hanging out and they are next to me is no problem, nor has ever been.
  • Cold approaches in the street – have still not attempted one.

Now I realise that you have to go out and take action and not read too much into theory but I feel like a person who only knows a few basics of a language and is having trouble with conversations due to a lack of knowledge of the basic structures. Once I know a little more of the basics, I’m sure the rest can come naturally.

So it’s time to hit the books and videos!

My Threads

Another thing that I feel is holding me back is my feeling very self-conscious about my appearance. Definitely I wear old clothes that are not “trendy” in any way. This is something I radically need to change and quick.

I am very busy this next couple of weeks, a lot of things are happening to me. But I also hope to get a new wardrobe, functional and versatile (I don’t like to own many material possessions) that will make me look cool and not like a chump.

It isn’t helped by the fact that I am losing a lot of weight at the moment, around 2 pounds a week. I don’t really wanna invest in a pair of jeans that may only fit me for a month. So on this thought, I think I will wait 2 more weeks before buying any new jeans.

For later, I am going to invest in some weights, maybe even a bench too. I have the space for the first time in a long time so this would make for an excellent investment.

Anything that helps me to feel better about myself can only help me in getting the girls. I have always wanted to have a good physique anyway and I appreciate such features on both men and women.

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Approaches Dilemma

September 18th, 2009 · diary

Today I passed a few chicks (although I cannot remember most of them). For example, the same place I saw that chick eating yesterday there were today a couple of groups of girls in 3s.

But I was already intoxicated (stoned). I figure that I need to be totally clean to talk better to women, this is my feeling.

Also, I’m nowhere near having enough balls for pure street approaches e.g. while walking. But these sound like excuses to go for the easier situational approaches.

At the end of the day, an approach is an approach!

Funny thing is, as I got to the front door of the building where I live, I had a conversation with a hot blonde at the door. I spoke in her language (I have only the basics) and asked her if she needed letting in (I think she was there for a friend). She smiled of course (we both did).

I realise now that there is some advantage in not being able to speak fluently with a chick. You don’t need to be poetic in your language although of course there are limitations too.

It was only when I was later going further to my front door that I realised I should have asked her where she was from etc. and gotten a conversation going. It had not even occurred to me at the time!

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David DeAngelo – Yay or Nay?

September 18th, 2009 · diary

Lately I’ve been watching some David De Angelo. Actually his books are OK but I prefer video.

The problem with this guy is that I really do not like his speaking style. He seems a cool guy but the videos are just so damn boring.

It must be purely down to taste because I know others who seem to love his style. I have heard good things about his videos called “Cocky & Funny” and “Sexual Communication”.

And yet I have tried for the second time to watch his stuff but just cannot do it. So I’ll be sticking to other PUAs stuff for now. But anyway, you should check it out for yourself and see what you think – make your own mind up.

After all, part of the journey of going from AFC to PUA is the inner game i.e. don’t conform or submit, do your own thing instead!

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Nothing To Report

September 18th, 2009 · diary

Yesterday practically nothing happened.

I woke up, checked my email and then had to attend to some urgent business which took several hours to deal with. No talking to chicks involved.

I need to start walking more from where I park my bike to where I am going. This will give me more opportunities to try daygame street approaches. I mean, I might not have the balls to but at least I’ll have the opportunity.

Yesterday I had one definite opportunity. I spotted this chick sitting down on a bench and eating a meal in the late afternoon, close to where I parked my bike. I should’ve just gone right up to her and asked for the time and then sat down next to her but I bottled it.

I thought maybe she was eating too much and didn’t have time to talk (it was a big meal, not a snack) but I know that this would not stop PUAs and is just an excuse of my own creation. Has the lesson been learned?

Another thing I need to do is buy some new clothes. A lot of the clothes that I wear are many years old. I don’t need to go for major labels but I do need to invest a few hundred Euros in some newer clothes. I am quite self-conscious about this aspect of my appearance so the sooner I do this, the better.

Also, I’ve decided on a couple of things to expand my social network. Sure, day game can be done solo if you’re doing street pickups. But not only will there me more opportunities but I think it’s also good for the soul to expand your social horizons and meet many more new people. I also want to get away from this computer and hang out more – I’ve seen far too much of damn computers in recent years!

So I’m going to find and join a local dance group. This will increase my confidence with kino etc. and is also a great way to pick up chicks (I know because my friend does it and has banged loads of chicks this way!). Also, will join a language class too.

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Great Inspirational Post

September 16th, 2009 · diary

By the way, check out this great inspirational post from the RSD forum:

DaggerNL’s 30 Day Challenge

I have watched the RSD Blueprint before from RSD. It is more for advanced guys, if you are new to pickup then you will not learn anything very practical from this despite what they claim.

But the forum there is pretty active and one of the guys there did one of their bootcamps and then set himself a 30 day challenge which he is still doing and having great success with. He even lost his virginity on a beach!

Now I don’t have the benefit of the bootcamp and don’t want to spend €1,300 or so on one either (not now anyway, and I would like to think I don’t “need it” by the time I can afford it, say in 3 to 6 months). So hopefully I can still enjoy this success and quickly.

I saw another thread on another forum where a guy tried for a year and still had problems doing approaches, I think he had self-esteem issues. A lot of guys have them, for example I feel I would feel better in myself if I lost some weight (as he did too). But I wonder if that is just an excuse not to succeed. This is something I will try to avoid.

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A Decent Start Out In The Field

September 16th, 2009 · diary

I talked to a friend today and told him a little about my journey. And then decided that today I would try some approaches. It was not a bad day considering you could call it Day 1 in many respects.

I went out to some bars and cafes. As I moved around on the bike, I actually did not cross paths with any women while in the short transit between bike and the establishments. Anyway, it was still an interesting day.

First Place

The place was mostly empty. There was a group of 4 outside (2 girls and 2 guys). I should have sat next to them (and would have been next to the girls) but it was freezing outside and I could even see the group shivering!

Inside I chatted to the barman. As I’ve been learning, a “cool guy” talks with anyone and everyone, not just chicks. So I chatted to the owner about some random subject for a bit. To be honest, I’ve never had problems with such situational talking, I know some guy do but it’s never been a problem for me so I didn’t really feel any achievement from this.

Later on a chick walked in and chatted to the guy while I was sitting with my back to the bar. As I turned and passed by momentarily I did not realise immediately that they were hugging or embracing. It looked to me like they were boyfriend/girlfriend.

Some time later, I decided I would try to “break into the set” (I think this is what the terminology is) and I asked some random question of both the barman and the chick. Not too out of the ordinary for me but I was making the conscious effort.

At first the barman was talking to me but then the chick chimed in and I noticed that she was making great eye contact with me and very engaged in conversation. I have no problem making eye contact, I have always enjoyed locking eyes like this.

Then my drink became finished and I was leaving soon but she was very, very engaged. I was beginning to doubt that this guy was her boyfriend because I had also not witnessed any kino except the hug. And they didn’t exactly sweet talk to each other earlier either.

She gave me some good advice on something we had been discussing. I would like to have been more playful but remember that this guy could have been her boyfriend. Same goes for kino although I shook her hand when I left and introduced myself and told her I would see her around. This is likely anyway if you frequent the same places enough, I have noticed.

I also asked what she did here and found out where she works which is actually in the neighborhood I frequent almost every day anyway. I told her I would drop by and say hello, which of course I will in a few days.

Who knows if the guy was her boyfriend or not. It would not surprise me if she is available. I will go for the kino the next time.

Second Place

Here the place was empty. Here they normally have a large room where you can talk easily to others which I have done before several times. Out of luck so I did not stay long.

The bargirl here was hot though. There was no space to hang around to chat and she was always talking with others while serving me so I did not wish to barge in and interrupt these conversations. I could have but personally I consider it rude.

Third Place

I went back to the place I had seen the Germans last night. Unfortunately, it was dead and there was nobody there! Worse still, the most boring bartender in the world was there.

He’s not just boring, he’s also a bit weird the way he seems to look at you. Hard to describe.

Anyway, I thought I would force myself to talk to him. After all, in finding girls I am sure to find some mixed guy/girl groups where the guys are boring and weird who I need to befriend before ignoring and concentrating on the chicks! So this practice would be an investment in my future!

As it happens, he was not all that weird and boring after chatting for a bit.

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So that’s it for the day. I unfortunately did not encounter many other women while I was walking short distances. I hope to do better tomorrow and maybe even try some street pickups. Probably I’ll ask for the time or something, this will also make for finding out if they speak good enough English or not.

Not sure if I will use the line though: “oh that’s OK, I don’t need the time, I just wanted to flirt with you”. This line is from the Lance Mason Spy Videos that I’ve been watching. Mind you, there’s no point in delaying things. The earlier I push my boundaries then the faster I can get to more advanced levels. I just need to throw caution to the wind and go for it.

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